I was Facebooking/Tweeting some Cancer tweets because we are nearing Cancer Season. Mercury and Venus enter the sign of the MOTHER this weekend! (!) and I asked this question:
Does your Sun Sign feel good to you? I like how being a Cancer feels. Regenerative and warm.
Now “regenerative” may be more of a Scorpio keyword but it’s what came to mind for me. I was born in the Scorpio decan of Cancer and the ruler of my Sun (the Moon) is conjunct Pluto in my natal chart (thus the name of this blog).
That warmth is something I feel when I wake up in the morning these days. Warm, calm (yes, I quit smoking), a deep well, peaceful.
A Scorpio Sun (with Cancer Rising) commented on my Facebook page that sometimes she likes how it (her Sun) feels and sometimes she doesn’t. How when it’s good it’s very good and how when it’s bad, it’s horrid!
And I starting wondering how much we should “work on” our essential natures. For example, Scorpio does go to extremes. Should we teach Scorpio moderation? Sounds crazy right? Scorpio is Scorpio, not some moderate, even-handed sign. Scorpio is not about being fair 😉
AND YET what if said Scorpio is unhappy and, for example, unmoderately stinging his/herself to detriment, to death. Would we not want to help Scorpio adjust (if Scorpio was open to it) or trust that the essential nature is essentially nutritious and nothing more is needed.
Or what about a Cancer who mothers everyone and thus depletes his/her energy reserves.
I realize my questions here are from my point-of-view, my chart, which is a “helping” chart, lots of Virgo/Pisces stuff going on with me. Service.
My questions for you: can the essential nature be adjusted, changed, and should it be? And if so, when?
Love, MP
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18 thoughts on “Scorpio Goes To Extremes And Is That Okay?”
According to Saturn’s return in my first house, it not only can — it MUST. Scorpios go through death and rebirth all the time, the phoenix rising from and falling to ashes. It has been challenging to handle this Saturn Return, and Saturn has retrograded back over my natal Sun, Mercury, and Saturn within a decent orb for a few months now. The need for change is evident, forceful, even painful at times. When it stations direct, I’m hoping the toughest part of my Saturn Return will be over. I’m hoping it leaving the orbs of my natal trillium (is that proper astro-speak?) will give way to the completion of a rebirth. Additionally? I pulled a deva card for the last eclipse and got “receptivity.” Yes. The signs are screamingly loudly — this Scorpio needs to change. 😉
Stellium? I like trillium too though 🙂
Yep I agree with what everyone is saying here. We have our fundamental selves and within our strengths we also have weaknesses that we don’t always understand until a harsh situation shows us that our usual approach isn’t always the best approach.
Im a Cancer who constantly depletes my energy without noticing until its way too late. I’ve spent the past year trying to become more self-motivated but this morning I realized, that isn’t my nature. Although I’m very solitary, I need to have a social purpose to feel fulfilled. My work is to input things throughout the day and week that force me to notice myself and tend to my needs so I’ll have the energy for others without depletion.
Scorpios don’t tend to change until they’ve truly learned the lesson for themselves but if they really respect your opinion, they listen and sometimes they’ll even tell you about how your intrusion 😉 helped them rethink their approach to life.
Sidenote, I heard a great thing about change the other day: you can’t change your behavior if you’re still holding on to beliefs that you’re working to validate. Our attachment to our beliefs, particularly the negative beliefs about other people and the world around us, become our religion. We worship and make altars to it. Until we question our internalized beliefs about our environment we can’t change our external actions.
Thanks, Charlotte! Good points about beliefs…
edit above (because my third house moon/pluto HAS to or i won’t sleep) to correct to “sun/neptune conjunction is in SCORPIO” (and is thus somewhat piscean flavored).
Yup, I remember! Pisces flavor, Scorpio substance!
i wrote a long-winded answer then looked up at what missy said and i think i’ll just go with that.
and funny, the only fire i have in my chart is my north node in leo, and while my natal sun/neptune conjunction is pisces and moon/pluto conjunction in virgo are darn big gears (meshing by way of their sextile aspect), and venus conjunct mercury in libra is all over my personal/social “style,” it’s that north node dynamic that (especially now as i have come to know more about it), while seeming a “small” element, it is extremely powerful in a kind of “hidden” way.
it feels sometimes like the tugboat hauling the big ship into the waters it best works in. everyone oohs and aaahs at the ocean liner (aircraft carrier) but w/o that little tug, it’s almost lacking a course.
Always a treat to see you Bob 🙂 It’s like you sneak in, sneak out, sneak in 🙂
such a juicy question! I love it.
I think the essential nature first must be seen… noticed and brought into conscious awareness… not always an easy task. from there I think we can make some minor adjustments to how we behave … if we WANT to. I’ve been trying to practice this lately in a particular relationship of mine. trying to be a tad bit LESS of what comes so natural to me…. a little more air, little more earth… a little less water (i’m a pisces sun/scorpio rising/cancer moon… both sun and moon are in water houses to boot!). And not to abandon it, but to just dial it down a notch or two. it’s not easy. and sometimes I just say “the fuck w/this!!… i’m just gonna be who I am.”… and then I proceed to overwhelm the person! 🙂
i’m not sure we can actually *change* something so basic as the fundamental energy of a sign or planet or ourselves, but we can bring more balance to the expression of it by employing the other energies in our charts.
Makes sense to me, missy
Using Scorpio as an example, I think Scorpio energy holds the potential to be *extremely* vengeful and obsessive or *extremely* fair and just. 🙂 So long as our free-will is intact, we all have a degree of choice in how we express our essential natures. It’s like that parable (possibly Native American) about the two fighting wolves -representing the lower and higher sides of our nature- and how the one that wins is determined by whichever one we feed: http://www.sapphyr.net/natam/two-wolves.htm
I know it’s a struggle for me, but I’m working on it.:)
We’re all evolving. In what we believe to be our weaknesses, we can find a source of strength. And our strengths, taken to extreme, become weaknesses.
Appropriate balance is the key.
“The dose makes the poison.”
— Paracelsus
Being essentially scorpionic, moon,neptune conjunct and asc. in scorp. plus sun and mercury in cancer in eight house, believe me I have suffered the consequences of extreme behaviour and life choices, but if you live your life true to yourself (essential nature) these experiences become the alchemical stages of transmutation our essential selves into our potential selves…..Our lessons for growth…an acorn for instance is a potential majestic oak tree and in the case of scorpio one can transmute from scorpion to eagle, lead into gold, ultimitely, I guess it is remaining ourselves whilst learning our lessons… back to good old saturn!!!lol
Hello Kara! (New reader I think) 🙂
I think there should be adjustments if it’s not positive or helpful. Understanding the lower vibration of our chart helps us see our weaknesses.
I’m a 10th house Cancer mom with lots of Virgo and Saturn in the 5th house. My poor kids I can be smothering & critical all in the name of “in their best interest”. My kids being safe & stabilized makes me feel safer I think. This is the lower vibe of Cancer which doesn’t address my safety & stability at all.
I know of Scorpios who have gone a long time without anyone daring, or perhaps bothering, to give them help or maybe just nurturing they may be too proud (or whatever) to ask for, and their first reaction to many emotions they feel is stinger out, lol. A defense mechanism.
I’m Scorpio decan of Pisces. And Pluto in Scorpio, and 8th house moon. Sometimes I just need a hug and don’t even realize it, instead I lash out!
The stars were aligned a certain way when we were born, thus, evidently, we are the way we are and we ALL have things to work on. Every sign has something about them that could be toned down, for ex. I’m a Leo, my constant need for attention can get me into trouble (hot head) So to answer your question, I don’t think it is wrong to try to help a Scorpio, I’m sure in the long run it is better for she/he.
Thanks Jamilla. Yeah that’s true about Leo lol