What is the difference between compulsion and discipline? If someone writes everyday, are they obsessed? Or just working hard? Saturn disciplines. Pluto obsesses. When these two lovebirds meet up, in hard aspect in the sky or in your chart, the energy is not, sigh, easy.
Saturn Pluto can be crushing. Saturn Pluto can be cruel. Some years ago, I met a woman with this aspect in her natal and the word that came to mind was ugly. She wasn’t ugly. She was beautiful, ambitious, creative, with Saturn in her 4th. One day, I learned that a relative on her mother’s side had a kind of self-repulsion which led to self-mutilation. This hard energy was part of her lineage (4th house) and the influence of her mother was apparent in her intense romantic partnerships (Pluto in the 7th House).
Even in the charts of kind and accomodating people, Saturn Pluto can present as coldness, as cruelty.
Right now we’ve got Saturn and Pluto in square in the sky. Both are retrograde but Saturn turns direct next week. This is not to say that every child born these days will be cruel and cold with a lustful ego drive to rival Donald Trump, but every child born these days WILL have this square on their soul, a birthmark, and will need to learn the highest manifestation of this energy.
Isabel Hickey: “Pluto always brings a crisis of some sort, but needs other transiting conditions in the chart to explode its energy.”
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I have Saturn/Pluto sextile…both have hard aspects. I for one am looking forward to Saturn direct!
Kashmiri, me too. And suddenly… I’m a bit nervous. It squares my Cancer stellium and I was enjoying the Retrograde away from my Sun and yet I can feel… it’s time… Hello Saturn!
Saturn is about to transit (again) my natal Pluto/Venus conjunction in Libra. It’s made me so…single. I’m kind of forfeiting a single intense, romantic relationship in the interest of learning how to relate better to the other in general. One of the best lessons I’ve gotten from this Saturn in Libra transit is to learn to be friends with men (Libra), and not focus on the sex (Pluto) so much. My natal Saturn is in the 2nd, looking at men as pieces of meat is not good business practice. The last time Saturn and Pluto hooked up in my chart I was in a bit of crisis that required a huge leap of faith, but this next go around doesn’t have me so nervous as much as excited. I’ve got that solar eclipse in Cancer to look forward to and I’ve got a good feeling about Jupiter transiting Taurus in my houses of career and friendship. Wow…I just cheered myself up out of my watery/cancery funk 🙂
Yay for cheering up out of watery funk! Take the opportunities Jupiter presents. They come from outside you. Sounds mystical, eh? Was something I was reading today. With a Neptune transit? Stick with what you know. With a Jupiter transit? Go for it. These thoughts paraphrased courtesy of Isabel Hickey, astrologer.
I have Saturn square Pluto. I think having Jupiter in a T-Square with them can help to alleviate it at times.
Kind aspects to your Saturn or Pluto will help.
For example, using a different square from my own chart: I have Venus square Saturn but then I also have Venus sextile Jupiter. They don’t cancel each other out at all, but…. I have two different energy streams to work with, so to speak.
(I did wonder if this post was too scary)