Why some people have it and why some people don’t. Shame.
I’d consider Saturn and Pluto to be co-rulers of shame and I’m thinking of the Venus in the 8th House people in my life (Venus is love/desire/attraction and the 8th is associated with Scorpio/sex) and how they do not have this body shame and then remembering someone else who no doubt has it. See, the entire chart matters.
These are random thoughts, I know, but this evening was watching a documentary called Great Directors and I had no idea that a woman directed The Night Porter (and I was about to call The Night Porter an erotic film which probably makes we weird but I am particularly interested in women directors exploring taboo subjects) and again a memory:
recalling a certain ex boyfriend, no shame at all to be naked, unlike me and my chart-body and how his naturality (for lack of a better word) extended to me too. I held my shyness close, but it didn’t come from him. He made no judgements ever. And he was always hot and ready. Also didn’t want me to color my new grey hairs, thought it meant I’d be seeking a younger man.
Is it the Rising Sign that determines unselfconsciousness? Is it the squares (or lack of them) to Venus? Or is it the Moon, what we learned from, in, our families, our mothers. This body-happy ex boyfriend, by the way, has a Venus Mars sextile so that’s another clue, harmony between the male/female sides of his nature…
Your thoughts?
xo
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3 thoughts on “Of Shame And The Body”
This is complicated. Shame is potent and Venus rules desire. Desire to me is the will to live, how do you sire it? And if you have shame, how do you heal it? I think that guy was deep MP. A man who fears you covering your grey? That is gold to me. He had no shame in his desire to love every part of you. That is rich. What sign or rising was he?
As far as if the shame of ones’ body is this or that? I believe it’s Saturn. Mine is in the first. I guard my body well. Too well. So well I was a virgin until 21. I have Venus sextile Mars too. I think it means only the tender may apply. Or at least you better know what you are doing or what you want. Unselfconsciousness probably a Venus thing.
I’ve felt shame over my body due to the attention it received, its shape, scars/stretch marks, etc. 🙁 Venus in the 8th here, but square Mars.
My sister has the sextile, and has had issues herself, but she kept herself slim (once she lost weight), and didn’t have the same need to cover up as I’ve had. She wars tank tops, short-shorts, dresses and skirts (occasionally). I may as well have been amish.
I’ve definitely seen Venus 8th work both ways. Well, I’ve seen the sexual libertine and also the sexually traumatized. Sometimes in the same person although often they don’t consider it trauma (from what I’ve seen) but instead it just gets funneled back into the drive