I get ideas for blog posts in the middle of the night and when I’m waking up. And then I promptly forget them.
When I had a Blackberry, I would type at the speed of light and get down my ideas that way, whenever they came. The Android phone touch screen still thwarts me and lately I don’t keep pad and paper by the bed. I guess I should 🙂
Here’s what’s on my mind:
I believe we get the same lessons in our lives over and over until we change. I am going through this now and hoping that I have learned. And I think I have. Maybe! Because a similar situation was about to creep up again and I noticed it! And stopped myself.
For example, I have a very Venus Neptune chart. Delusion, illusion and confusion in love. I have Venus in the 12th House of self-undoing. I have Venus square Neptune (illusion, forgery square love). I have Neptune ruling my descendent (I idealize my partner). I have transiting Neptune, now retrograde, conjunct my North Node (time to learn this lesson!), heading to my descendent! I have Neptune in the 3rd House of how I think!
In other words: clarity is hard to find. To say the least.
Now with a chart like mine, married men will approach me. They ALWAYS have. Since I was a teenager! Emotionally absent men will approach me. Invisible men 😉 will approach me. Disappearing men, dissolving men, deceptive men, addicts (Neptune) of one kind of another.
And it’s up to me ONLY to recognize it (them) for what it is. To stop the old habits and patterns and NOT fall into fantasy land la-la-la down the Yellow Brick Road of loving the invisible absent man.
Reality is the antidote to Neptune i.e SATURN is the antidote to Neptune and my 2nd House Saturn transit hasn’t been only about money but yes about self-worth and about me valuing me. What I want. What I believe *I* am worth.
I wrote in a blog post yesterday that 1. Mystery exists and 2. Some things are worth fighting for
Your believe in your value is one of those “things” and that battle takes place within. And then the rest of your life unfolds, opens up, like a beautiful fan.
Regarding relationships: you MUST define what you want (hello Saturn in Libra!) which includes what will not do. All else follows.
Love, MP
20 thoughts on “Neptune Problems And Love, With Examples From My Chart Ahoy!”
I didn’t get this lesson while Saturn was in my 2nd but I’m getting it now that Mars is here. Today I am feeling angry 🙂 It’s a light wave of anger but I am getting angry that I was so decieved by a purely neptune relationship. He was a ghost. I’d even told him so. Maybe it was the love haze, maybe it was just something I needed to see to the end but there was nothing there and I’m finally starting to accept it.
I’m excited because I couldn’t feel this way before. I was so busy feeling afraid of his next move (Pluto and Saturn are very much involved) that I couldn’t process the breakup but its coming out of me now. He was shit. Yeah there was good and bad like there is with any person, but right now i’m not trying to see his good qualities or assess how this relationship served as a stepping point for something else in my life. Eff that. For now I’m feeling mad and I love it because my 12th H mars forgets that i’m allowed to feel all of my feelings.
Idk if I’ll ever get over this one. I’m just being honest. As everything replays all the signs were there but I didn’t see them, or didn’t absorb them. We were nothing yet I put my entire life on it. He didn’t exist, not the version of him I created in my head. He didn’t love me, couldn’t, maybe didn’t even like me.
I wasted the best years of my life on him. My most innocent, honest, open, years were wasted wanting someone who didn’t value me at all and now I’m so jaded I don’t date. Sure there’s better out there but I may not be ready for years & neptune will be deep in my 7th by then. I can’t take anything back but I find it hard to move forward. I had a bad dream that he was moving in with his new (but former ex) gf. I’m sure it’ll come true because thats what my dreams do. But why do I have to see it?
I’m tired of reliving it but I clearly still have some excavating to do. Odd part of the dream is there was fire and I was beautiful and happy for most of it.
Sorry this is a book. I just needed to spill and this blog post reminded me how familiar you are with this theme.
Great post and some funny replies. Thanks 🙂
Aliza, You are welcome. lol 😛 glad to be of service.
Well buoyant on the inside is what matters right? That’s where I have mine… I STILL have a somber, serious, Saturn exterior though… I could be happy as a lark, and people will come up and tell me to “Smile! It’s not so bad!” LOL
story of my life
in one week, i had someone tell me “you’re sad all the time” and someone else tell me “you’re mad a lot”
and i’m like HUH???
people should just shuddup 😉
Hee! 😛
My 12th house Pisces Venus hears you loud and clear. I can’t say that I have delved in the deep waters of Neptune too much though because there are Saturn and Pluto holding my hands tightly – by inhabiting my 7th house. Honestly, compared to them, maybe Neptune is softer – at least you can dream of love and beauty and being loved. Better than Saturn’s rejection an Pluto’s betrayal.
But I am sure Neptune, Pluto and Saturn are good guys as well…I have faith.
Holy HAT! Is THAT what it is?? Neptune in the 12th Scorp opposite my lucky jupiter in Taurus on my 7th house cusp? Damn, these married men root me out like pigs to a truffle. WTF? I am on the dating websites and the FIND me. Sheesh. I am taking your advice. Not even going to REPLY to anyone who smells of matrimony. Oh yeah, and I’ve had my share of “therapy projects” too. Good advice A. : )
LOL pigs to a truffle. I think Pluto, too, in my 1st can draw them in but Neptune makes me susceptible and confused…. and I’m sure there’s more to analyze.. but it’s always been with me. My sister’s b/f came on to me when I was…. 12 or 13…. WTF and there was other stuff. At a young age.
Currently trying to tame my neptune aspects in my chart (neptune – opposing mercury, trine venus, square moon/jupiter conjunction in pisces, and descendent in pisces) especially involving love…as I am a total dream weaver! What I’m trying to work on is how to trust my intuition/’knowing’ which is really strong without getting it confused with fantasy. As someone who uses intuition daily in their work, have you found this to be an issue? ie. feeling insecure about your insights and maybe discounting them, especially with people. Sometimes I feel I know a person better than they do themselves…almost like they haven’t grown into the person I am experiencing them to be..I think I read a post on here about that, about seeing/experiencing ‘the potential’ within (might be pluto related). This really confuses me, I never know where I am at, is it insight or fantasy. I think I need to train my intuition somehow. I have started using tarot, but early days. Sorry for rambling, just got me thinking about my pluto/neptune and how to use it effectively.
With practice I have learned to just “go with it” (regarding working with my intuition daily)– and sometimes I’m right and sometimes I’m a little off but actually when I find out that I’m off… I’m not completely off but just that the message isn’t clear.
For example, I was seeing someone having a stubborn boss but the truth was she was the stubborn one. Stuff like that happens to me.
Seeing the potential: neptune!! Neptune idealizes and really can see… all the beauty and the glory of another person,whether or not it is manifesting at all in reality. It’s kind of annoying 😉
Best way to practice: do readings for people and they will tell you if you are right or wrong!
Thanks for the tips MP – seems confidence is key, and not worrying about getting it wrong. Also glad I’m not going mad re: experience of potential!
Ahhh…the Neptunian waters can be so tricky.
You’re swimming and loving the experience of the seductive slipperiness on your skin and the soft, rolling waves are carrying you with such care, and everything is so gentle and lovely, but sometimes the current suddenly shifts, turning violent and you’re drowning, choking up water, wondering what the hell happened. Like the ocean, romance isn’t always predictable, caring and loving. But it’s okay once you know how to ride the waves and spot certain weather patterns. : )
I have Venus and Neptune and I am addicted to the notion of perfect, romantic love. My husband is a Pisces, and has Neptune/Venus aspects as well, and we are always overly dramatic when it comes to romance and our emotions. But we have a lot of Saturn too so that helps us snap out of it, but we can be kind of ridiculous, I have to say. We love the drama that illusion and fantasy can bring. We also love escapism and avoiding real issues.
Good luck on the love lessons. Why do we make it so hard?
Wow–right on!! Are you sure you arent’t talking about me–?????? You did tell me this just yesterday and here it is again.. ok ok I get the message!!! You are great MP <3
LOL I was talking about *me* unfortunately! But you do have your fair share of water that’s for sure!
Har… I get the Neptune thing here… Neptune just about smack on my DC.. have I had a tendency to idealize “the other”? ummm. YES. Luckily? lol I have a ready antidote… that Saturn in the First… I think, that Saturn is FINALLY seeping into my system…. as I’ve thought about how overboard I can go into ramping up “the other” (and not just romantic “others” but EVERY other) Believe me.. I know how to make a person feel special. 😉
I think though… now that I realize this trait in myself… I can take that step back, and wonder how much of this is who this person really is… and how much is what I WANT this person to be. Hmmm…. Although… I still want to see the best in everyone… I think my Jupiter/Sun thing may be a culprit in that too. But I really don’t mind it, my past was filled enough with seeing the worst in myself and others… I’m liking the switch.. it seems to work much better in my life. 🙂
Ah Jupiter/Sun and “seeing the best” … wonder what that’s like 😉
It’s errrr.. quite buoyant, I think I have some to spare, want some? lol 🙂
yep! i’ll take some!
*passes Aliza a bottle of Jupiter’s Bubbly Buoyancy*
buoyant on the inside
lol
i can NEVER spell that word so thank you for typing it out for me. seriously