No time to blog today so here is another repost…
Relationships always bring you back to yourself… in maddening ways, but ultimately good, transformative, 8th House ways.
Understand this: Moon Pluto people are always struggling in their intimacy. Wrestling with themselves. They are too intense, too domineering, they give too much, or they withhold. They alienate, they go round and round, they self-hate, they wish they could change. How possible is this change?
Here’s the good part. When a Moon Plutoperson finds another person to do relationship with them, they can grow. They can… calm the fuck down.
And relationships are fun, yes fun, for Moon Pluto people because they actually feel like they are getting to the bottom of something, which is very 8th House, very Pluto. Not every man or woman is cut out to swim in the shit with a Moon Pluto. Only the big-hearted. Only someone with a different case of crazy.
Storytime: so I’m texting with my boyfriend. Sounds ominous, right? And he says something snappy at me in reply. And then I get upset, and I reply. And then I realize later, after he leaves me a voicemail, that he’s anxious. And anxious about something other than what I had assumed.
Ten minutes later, I’m on the train, and I realize that I am anxious too. For different reasons.
I am looking at my notes for this blog post and realize I cannot end it how I had originally planned. It was a sweet sentimental ending. But as I type here, I feel more Saturn (sour) than Neptune (sweet) because I wonder if I really can change. I will always be me. I will always over-do. I will always be intense. I will always be too open. I will always be too closed. I will always make mistakes. No matter how much Virgo Moon pines for perfection, Virgo Moon fails, and sometimes the struggle to understand the other person is…
Wait a minute! Do we have to talk about Chiron again? That’s what this is. That’s what this feeling isright now! This deep pain which comes from my… where is it? I am trying to find it. I can’t find it. Somewhere between my collarbone and my stomach. I have Chiron in the 8th House. And on my7th House cusp by transit. God forbid I should let someone get to know me intimately (8th House) because once they do? They will hurt me without meaning to, time and time again.
So this blog post is less sweet and sentimental than at first, but, I think, more emotionally honest. And it was the relating itself that brought me here. To inspiration, to writing, to hopefully helping others, to understanding myself better, to understanding him better.
Here is something from the original draft: Dear Boyfriend, if you ever read this blog post, please know that I would not trade our misunderstandings for anything in the world. But if you fail to appreciate my humble musings, I will pour out my wrath upon your…
Just kidding, just a little Moon Pluto humor to lighten things up 😉
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8 thoughts on “Moon Pluto People In Relationship: Do You Want To Change? Do You Have To?”
Great post. My Moon Opp Pluto longs to transcend as well.
Moon-Pluto symptoms seem to result similar yieldings as Venus-in-Scorpio people… am I wrong about this?
I don’t have a Moon-Pluto conjunct (but the rather the latter!) and I feel the same things as intensely and emotionally as you’ve talked about them and react in the same “What? You think I’m being overly sensitive & overbearing? You don’t think I’m perfect?” way (when it’s pointed out by others- though that may be our shared Virgo Moons talking)
Just curious about this point of identification…!
Hmm interesting. I tend to think of personal planets in scorpio as having that “reserved” quality, even inhibited despite their sexy reputation as opposed to the wilds of the moonpluto (haha i sound silly) Is your venus in the 4th? Now that combo (adding the cancer flavor) would give it an over the top emotionality perhaps. But I dont’ remember where your venus lives… Maybe yours is in 5th? Leo never feels that she’s being overbearing but we know the truth 😉
Hmm.. I would look perhaps to something else in the chart. Oh. Perhaps an aspect your venus makes or your moon……..
Funny, my Virgo moon is my 4th house but my Scorpio Venus is in early degrees of my 6th house.
But I see what you mean. I don’t think Scorpio-Venus makes me all that wild, but I have those so throws of passion and intensity, but definitely, as you said, RESERVED. In the spirit of Scorpio, hidden and kept in the dark.
Oh. Just checked. My Moon sextiles my Venus. Does that affect anything?
What about us moon jupiter people – I’m feeling left out. I don’t know if you have written anything about us?
I am an obsessed person 🙂 I write about my obsessions.
Ha ha! “Only someone with a different case of crazy.” awesome
Was just thinking that yesterday.
This is kind of … laterally related:
Have you ever wanted to be less intense? is it even possible?
I really REALLY don’t want to be overbearing and exhausting, but sometimes just can’t help it. Like today, had a conversation on a topic that interest me and felt like a bull-terrier. Must’ve looked pretty mad, but at least they were impressed with the depth of my dedication 😀
Have I ever wanted to be less intense? Yes. Is it even possible? When I meditate regularly 🙂