Continuing the series that will not die… Catch up here and here.
What does it mean to mother? What is mothering? To support? To strengthen? To give? To love? To sacrifice? 😉 Yes. The mother gives her child the last bite of food when there is only one bite left. Do I sound romantic? Idealizing? The mother is human, has needs, moods AND YET she supports, she gets under, she makes a home, she creates safety. If she doesn’t create safety, has she failed? Oh God I do sound embarrassingly romantic, idealizing and… old-fashioned? Cancer to the core 🙂
Here’s my point. Moon Pluto people need to do this for themselves because I am assuming that Moon Pluto people have LOST. Something. Mother or family or home or lineage or memories or children….You can lose anything that you have. Mothering is a skill. If not born with it? It must be learned.
And the beautiful thing about Pluto is… is that Pluto governs rebirth and regeneration. Pregnancy as well as death. New life.
So the question becomes: how does one do this? how does one learn to mother?
Note to self: to be continued…
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11 thoughts on “Moon Pluto and Mother Issues (part 2)”
Hi. I love your article. I came here to understand my boyfriend’s mother issues – she’s controlling, demeaning, paranoid – and he caters to her every need to the point where he forgot that he was supposed to mature. However, he doesn’t have the conjunction or opposition. What he has is a moon-neptune conjunction is exact sextile to pluto-uranus conjunction, with saturn at the apex point of a yod. Can you give me some advice how this affects behavior. Moon and neptune are in scorpio, saturn in aries and pluto-uranus in virgo. Thanks.
Good timing for a post about mothers. Mine found out my dad was sexually abusing us when I was 14. She told me to forgive him or get out of the house because she couldn’t live without him, and what happened to me wasn’t that bad because she was raped by her brother. So, I haven’t known the concept of having a mother since then – she put a wall up to me that never came down.
I seem to have gone to the opposite side of the pendulum with my own kids. This last eclipse was in my 4th house (my natal Taurus moon). My kids were 3 & 5 when I left their dad, the party lifestyle would have killed me. We had joint custody and my daughter has manipulated the situation over the years to her advantage for whatever she needed at the time. I have 3 times now sacrificed my time and finances to help her to the point of screwing myself and when I have nothing left to give her she runs back home to daddy with the story that mom is an angry bitch. She called me a year ago from out West – she was pregnant and the guy dumped her (she’s 23). I was just recovering from a financial hole and saving money for badly needed dental work. Put that aside and spent $2500 to get her back home and get us set up in an apartment. I had NO LIFE while I supported her through all this. My granddaughter was born in February. I knew our 2 bdrm apt was too small and had talked to her about our need to find something better. I left my job in mid May (another life sucker), was absolutely drained by the last year and knew I needed to stop DOING and take care of my health. My budget was tight but I had enough to get through to the end of this month and have my half of the rent for July. My teeth started abscessing, I just spent the weekend in the hospital two weeks ago – the doctor told me if I had waited much longer the poison would have gone to my temples, into my eyes and I would have been blind. I got penicillan but I know when they run out it’s just going to return. She told me on the eclipse that she’s moving back to dad’s – the apt is too small. Considering her past behaviour (only calls when she needs something) I will very rarely see my grandchild and she will grow up assuming that my kid’s stepmom is her true grandma. My son is just the same – they both use me. I had my mom, dad and brother die one after the other and neither one of them called to ask if I was ok, was there anything they could do to help. So, a line has been drawn unfortunately – I was blind but now I see. I can’t take it anymore – I have to cut them from my life for now. I know I really have to get my nose to the grindstone so I don’t get evicted next month and I have no idea what I’m gonna do about my teeth – so right now I’m trying to rush through my shock, grieving and broken heart so I can tend to finances. The sucker sign on my forehead is flashing neon. Really kinda hoping Jupiter’s gonna provide me a miracle (I do believe events on eclipses are blessings in disguise). Sorry for the ramble, but it sure helps to know someone is listening and caring – thanks.
((((Mandy)))) it’s okay to ramble — an old Pisces friend of mine used to yell at me “Stay strong!” when I felt like collapsing. I didn’t really like being yelled at but I remember her words during hard times.
Yes, Esther, these types are “hard to kill” 🙂
The field I’m working in somehow brings a lot of people who have pluto aspecting their sun and/or moon. It’s fascinating. The company I’m working for is one of the leading in their field; it’s kill or be killed. The ones that don’t make it often *don’t* have pluto aspecting (one of the) lumenaries.
Why am I saying this…. oh yeah, I think Sun-Pluto contacts in ones chart also gives an intense power drive??
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“The company I’m working for is one of the leading in their field”. LOL. I wasn’t trying to sell you anything. 🙂
Thank you for your answers, it’s very interesting stuff!
Very nice series, moonpluto. Mothering is so hard. What do you think about the relationships moon-pluto people have with women?
Ever considered doing a piece on sun-pluto? I have Sun square Pluto and I have my suspicions as to what its manifestations are but I’d love to hear a more experience voice.
If Moon-Pluto learns about mothering, maybe Sun-Pluto is about fathering, about becoming your own guardian, your own initiator?
Thanks, als 🙂 Thank you for reading.
Good questions. Hmm. I may answer briefly and then come back to say more! Moon-Pluto people and women. First will speak from my experience: I have *always* had female friendships, good ones. But I also have a packed, pretty well-aspected 11th House (which sextiles my MP conjunction) and that helps. But I think one could potentially draw in…energy vampires, jealous types, lower vibrations of the more possessive signs, Single White Female types, you know? Women who treat you like a husband rather than a friend. Inappropriate friendships, so to speak. Eh, I think it could go either way but the friendships are bound to be deep and the friends WANT your deep(ness). I’d defer to the rest of the chart to really answer the question, case by case.
Sun-Pluto. I am learning about Sun -Pluto these days, again by experience as I’m close with someone with this aspect. Actually two people, one has the square and another has conjunction. Well, food for thought. Need to observe more. About fathering, sure, or again, general self-care. Tendency towards self-destruction. Sun-Pluto is, without a doubt, a challenge to… survival. The survival of the self, one’s very soul. So…. to extend it… what happens to a person when their very… self is… threatened. They die a little. Pluto Pluto Pluto. I guess the Sun and the Moon in challenging Pluto aspect have this common but yeah I think it’s different. There’s a harshness that I feel about Sun-Pluto, hard and harsh. Moon Pluto, to me, feels more like grieving, eternal grieving. Both hard, but different.
Hope this made sense. Stream of consciousness!
I am so moved by your writing… I can relate to so many things you write about… I have had a sad childhood that STILL hurts….
Hi Sharon! Thank you for stopping by.