Moon Saturn, Moon Chiron, And One More Use For Venus Retrograde In Gemini 5

"moon conjunct chiron"

With Saturn conjunct the Moon, Saturn will depress the feelings, squash them, but also what’s happening is that Saturn is hiding the sensitivity of the Moon, vulnerability. Hiding it from the person him/herself. And from everyone else.  Self-protection through Saturn. Creating a limit around how safe it is (or isn’t) to feel.

Saturn is wisdom from others or inner wisdom and with Saturn Moon, the inner wisdom is probably hard to bear because any aspect to our Moon is… baby-knowledge, what we learned when we were barely alive.

Find Saturn in your natal chart. You are wise there. Whether you realize it or not. Find Saturn in your transit chart. You are becoming wise there.


Any hard aspect to our Moon is a hard aspect to mother, to mothering, to childhood, to feeling safe, to feeling in general.

Pluto on my Moon makes my feelings intense, makes me hook into others and them into me (both Moon and Pluto represent the masses, or the public) but also includes a promise, an injunction: to transform (Pluto) my emotional nature (Moon).


I’ve lost count how many Chiron Moon people I’ve come into contact with lately. If Moon is mother and Chiron is what cannot be healed, then… what the hell? What does one do with such an aspect? The ideal (or my ideal anyway) is that eventually Chiron Moon people can stop the bleeding long enough so that they can learn to help others. Not in self-depleting ways but measured. Chiron Moon has so much pain though, it may or may not be possible. Don’t use your inability to rise above it all to berate yourself. It only drives the nail further in.

But ultimately, at some point, you must stop crying, (or at least take breaks) and the tears may not even be visible, noticeable, to you. But they’re there. Stop crying so you can *do* something else with your Chiron. You can’t replace the past. You can’t grow back a limb that is gone. But you can light the way for others. Your Moon is always a light for others — because it contains the nurturing seed which you must do for yourself always, whether your mother is alive, dead, missing, uncaring, crazy, self-involved, whatever the situation is.

Small consolation maybe but… what are your options?


Venus is in Gemini, retrograde. Options. Too many? Apply this to your healing, to your lifelong process of getting well. It hurts to hurt others but we do it anyway. Let Venus in Gemini show you new and interesting and CURIOUS ways to get better and to stop hurting others and ourselves. Not perfectly (Gemini squares Virgo) but better.

And don’t forget the LOVE part. We’re talking Venus, remember?

Love, MP

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Hello my name is Aliza and I help people. I'm a Tarot Reader and Astrologer, Teacher & Writer. Cancer Sun, Mercury, and Mars. Virgo Moon Pluto Hekate conjunction in the 1st House. If you aren't sure what all that means, I'll be happy to explain it to you! Or maybe you'd rather hear about your own chart :) I blog and do readings for a living. Poet and playwright, Iowa MFA, I got obsessed with astrology in my late 30s and the rest is history. For the moment.

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5 thoughts on “Moon Saturn, Moon Chiron, And One More Use For Venus Retrograde In Gemini

  • MiloBloom

    I just went through my Saturn Return about a year and a half ago, so I guess my wisdom in Libra/7th house matters is pretty good by now ;-)

    But I tend to think my Libra Saturn is the most dominant planet in my chart – so Saturn going over my Sun-Jupiter-Saturn-Mercury-Pluto stellium in Libra … well it hasn’t been the easiest couple of years, but it probably could have been a lot worse!

    Or maybe that’s just my newfound Saturn perspective talking ;-D

  • Angela

    I have Chiron/Sun natally, with Ceres there, too. The transit of chiron to my Moon/Venus and everything else (Mars, ruler of my Sun and co-ruler of the ascendant), just about did me in. Neptune was probably partially to blame, too.

    Venus retro: I’ve noticed that I’m slightly envying people who are in the throes of new romance (or that which has been building, and they’re finally meeting in person), but I also still feel cynical about that when it comes to me. It feels like it would be a hassle to have someone trying it on, and I just can’t see myself falling for someone, but maybe that’s just my own self-worth issues. I bought a new skirt the other night, and still need some pretty sandals. My mother said to me, “I’ve been waiting for you to remember that you’re a *girl*!” She forgets that I used to wear long skirts, wide heeled pretty shoes, little tops, etc.. and then the pups ate my heels, and I put on weight – I went from being too small to no longer fitting into my clothes, and that was after I started to get over the agoraphobia and was exercising again. I don’t feel all that feminine, but there are several issues surrounding that. I am feeling a bit envious of women like Liv Tyler, and Alexis Bledel, who seem to exemplify femininity.

    Natal Saturn in the 9th, and transiting Saturn in the 12th, getting ready to hit my 1st again… I guess this transit will try to tidy up the mess that Saturn, Pluto, chiron and Neptune all helped to make of me. ;)

    • alizamoonpluto Post author

      I meant Moon conjunct Chiron (may have neglected to specify) although sometimes when someone writes a phrase like that “Moon Chiron” or “Moon Saturn” or “Moon Pluto” — sometimes they mean the conjunction or square or opposition…. that the two bodies are tied up together in the chart. You need to be able to read your own chart to know if you have it, or have someone read it for you, or to go to a program on line that will list all your aspects.

  • sophiepiscesmoon

    Chiron transited conjunct my moon recently and it was basically a hellofalottapain. I am worrying because it is retrograding soon and so my moon will take another hit. I had better buy a box of tissues in readiness! Interestingly my friend was talking to me the other day about the tightest aspect degree in the natal chart and after reading this yesterday I looked mine up and discovered it was moon semi-square chiron at 0.05 (moon 6th pisces, chiron 8th aries). I’d like to become a healer..not sure in what sense yet..but was glad to discover this aspect in my chart despite its somewhat negative implications.